K3-VE & K3-VE2 ICV repair/replacement

It is a well known issue with the K3-VE and KE-VE2 engine that the idle control valve (ICV/IACV) either seizes or fails, leading to idle speed problems and hunting/surging revs at idle. This issue is relatively simple, the small valve which regulates the amount of air the engine needs at idle becomes seized and so the ECU cannot control the volume of air entering the engine through the bypass valve in the throttle body.

This is the issue which brought me to the forum, so I wanted to write a guide on how to repair or replace the ICV at low cost to help others out.

Tools needed:

  • Phillips (crosshead) screwdriver
  • 10mm socket
  • 12mm socket
  • Torx TS25 socket (note, this is NOT a regular Torx bit. The TS25 bit has only 5 lobes, rather than the usual 6 lobes. These can be hard to get hold of. Try Ebay or Amazon)
  • 12mm open-ended spanner

Optional:

  • Bench vice
  • Metal polish and some rags

Method:
The idle control valve is part of the throttle body unit. With the bonnet open, carefully remove the intake/engine cover by pulling it upwards and easing the rubber coupling from the intake pipework.

With a 10mm socket, carefully undo the 4x 10mm bolts that hold the intake duct/air filter assembly off, carefully remove the intake temperature sensor from the rear of the air box (it pulls out) and pull the rubber hose off of the MAP sensor, bolted the the rear of the inlet duct. The sensor itself does not need to be unbolted, leave it where it is, but unplug the 3-pin multiplug that attaches to the wiring loom to give yourself better access. Then or simply swing the entire assembly through 90 degrees to make space to access the throttle body

With this clear, you ought to have a view of the throttle body something like this

First, carefully unplug all the multi-plug connectors. There are two - one for the throttle body butterfly valve which is black, and one for the idle control valve which is grey. These are on very short wiring harnesses so move them aside the best you can.

Next you need to unbolt the throttle body from the inlet manifold below it. In the pic above, you can see two 12mm bolts immediately below the barrel of the throttle body, and one 10mm bolt at approximately 1 o’clock. these need to be undone and the bolts set to one side. As a matter of course, give the thread of the bolts a light dab of copper grease or hi-temp regular grease at this point.

Next, turn the sprung black plastic arm that the throttle cable routes through to the fully open position. The throttle cable has a cast metal cylinder on the end of it that locates into a hole in the plastic arm. with the tension off the cable, the cylinder should slide out of the locating hole and you can gently release the arm again. Undo the two 12mm bolts that hold the throttle cable into the arm of the throttle body and slide it out, setting it to one side.

With the bolts removed, then unclip the pipework going to the throttle body. There are 4 pipes connecting to it. 2x coolant pipes go in at 12 o’clock, one above the other. These use the spring clips which are most easily removed with either mole grips, or the correct clip removing tool. Slide the clips further up the rubber hoses to keep them secure but out of the way. Next, there is a fat hose which connects at approx 4 o’clock which runs to the rocker cover, pull this off and twist it 90 degrees so it points straight upwards. Finally, there is one more hose which runs from the brake servo and connects at approx 10 o’clock, visible just below the pipe with the pink paint on it in the above pic. Pull this off too and tuck it out of the way.

With these removed, gently lift the throttle body directly upwards and it will pop off the inlet manifold. Make sure you retain the large rubber o-ring gasket in a safe place.

with the throttle body free of the car, it will look like this

The ICV part of the throttle body assembly is the bit closest to the camera in this pic- it has 2x coolant pipes attached and is held on with 4x bolts with Phillips/crossthread heads. You need to undo these. I found it MUCH easier to do this by clamping the flange of the throttle body that the 2x 12mm bolts go through into a bench vice but its probably possible to hold down firmly with one hand and undo the bolts with the other hand. Be aware these are threadlocked in place so you need a fair bit of force to make them release their grip.

Undo all 4 bolts, set them aside and apply a small amount of copper grease to the threads.

With the 4 bolts removed, the ICV hosing will lift off. Depending how long its been there, it can be a bit sticky, so a gentle tap with a rubber mallet or wooden object can help free it off. Be aware that coolant runs through the ICV so a small amount will have leaked out by this point. Its nothing to worry about.

You need to undo these 2x screws, its easier with the ICV attached to the throttle body as you have more to grip. The stepper motor is the black thing with 3 pins here, and is what controls the valve within the housing and is held on with 2x TS25 torx screws. These are not very tight, but please do not try and improvise with a blade screwdriver - you will just chew up the head of the screws.

With the stepper motor removed, the ICV housing looks like this

For safe keeping, I screwed the 2x TS25 screws back into the body of the ICV. Do this, or set them aside in a safe place. The ICV is composed of three ‘ports’ - the larger one, at the top of this pic is the void through which the coolant circulates. Below, there are 2 ports, an inlet and an outlet with a valve which controls airflow. Where this attaches to the throttle body, there is a bypass duct that goes around the throttle butterfly and through these two ports. The idea is that the stepper motor acts on a spindle - you can see the cylindrical end of this between the two screws - which controls how much air can flow through this bypass.

What you may find is that the valve is seized in position, gentle twisting of the spindle cylinder may free it off, and application of aerosol penetrating oil like RP-90 or PlusGas will help to free off the seized valve. Keep twisting the spindle to rotate the valve through 360 degrees as much as you can to clear off any muck thats is causing it to seize up.

In my case, the valve was so crusty and seized that replacement was the best option. If this happens you can get a replacement ICV from ebay Australia but these are $740 (!!!) - I found that if you search the part number 22270-97401 on AliExpress, these exact same units are £15.50 delivered to the UK.

In my case, it made sense to just replace the unit. Helpfully, the new ICV from AliExpress comes with a new gasket. I gave this a light coat of silicone grease and fitted it to the recess in the throttle body

placed the rubber gasket in situ, the refitted the 4x phillips/crosshead bolts which I had applied grease to the threads. tighten them up slowly in a X pattern to make sure of even clamping pressure. If you are just unseizing the existing ICV I would suggest replacing the gasket as a matter of course, and using fine grade wet 'n dry paper to gently clean the mating faces of the throttle body and ICV housing.

With this refitted, I took the time to clear the general accumulated muck from the barrel of the throttle body using Autosol metal polish and an old rag. It takes a while to do, but the end result is very pleasing

As you can see, the barrel polishes up very well, as does the throttle butterfly. This ought to help airflow through the throttle body, but also prevent the butterfly from becoming gummed up with crankcase breather muck and getting gummy.

With this done you can then refit everything. First, bolt the throttle body back down with 2x 12mm bolts and 1x 10mm bolt. Then reconnect the throttle cable by twisting the sprung arm to fully open position and clip the cylindrical end of the throttle cable into the hole in the black plastic arm. Lay the cable carefully unto the groove and carefully release the arm back its fully closed position. Using a 12mm open-ended spanner, retighten the cable through the arm to allow the cable to move through its sheath correctly.

Reconnect the crankcase breather pipe, the brake servo pipe and the 2x coolant pipes to the throttle body assemblage, taking care to refit the two spring clips to the hoses for the coolant pipes.

Next, refit the air intake ducting, and screw down the 4x 10mm bolts that hold it into position. Connect the intake manifold vacuum pipe to the MAP sensor, and reconnect the MAP sensor multi-plug. Refit the intake air temperature sensor (if you removed it earlier) and then finally refit the engine cover/intake duct.

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awesome write up I have not read all of it but I know in future i will need to. Thankyou for this valuable addition

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I experienced this problem one two separate K3 engines.

Thank you for such a detailed writeup

Thank you. Just did the work on 2011 Sirion. Worked perfectly. Ts25 torx is hell to open without the bit but I just chopped it off and replaced it with normal torx bolt.

Went from unstable idle between 1500 and 2000 to around 650. This tutorial should be saved for generations to come.

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Hello - thank you so much for this detailed step-by-step, it is the most useful DIY help on the topic in all of the internet. May I ask a question about process of putting the throttle body back in? I have YRV 2001, it was going very well, except the idling was not responding to the cold start or under load, when cold started or AC on and in Automatic gear - the engine shook threatening to cut out. But once warm and no AC, it was going fine idling about 700 at stops. I figured the ICV was not working so went to clean it as per this instruction. It went smoothly thanks to this post, and the ICV cylinder was not turning with so much sooty stuff, freed and cleaned. But when I put the throttle body back together - the car now stalls, hardly keeps idle - and exhaust rich with black soot coughing up. So I got a new ICV unit from Aliexpress and replaced it - but it is doing the same, possibly worse. I am pretty sure I put everything back together on the body and the air cleaner assembly OK - but what I am not sure is if I reinserted the body back on manifold correctly - and there may be leak there? Second time, I felt the body was not seating flat with a tiny wobble, before the bolts were tightened. I see in the picture the O-ring is seated inside the lower barrel. Is there anything I should watch out, before reseating the throttle body? Or is there anything else that would cause the non idle and rich mix, that I may have caused ? Any pointers will be appreciated.

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Thank you, I’m glad it helped!

Have you got any warning lights on, and are you able to read fault codes via the OBD2 socket? I would suggest starting there to see if it flags anything up.

Have you ensured you have connected the air intake temperature sensor in the air intake when you reassembled everything?

Have you checked for leaks by having the car running and spraying carb cleaner, or aerosol deodorant around the area and seeing if you can hear the engine note change?

Finally, have you reseated the big ~50mm o-ring between the throttle body and inlet manifold? This is important to stop the introduction of air leaks.

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Thank you! A little confession - I’ve DIY’ed for many years keeping old cars for everyday use. My last car, before the incredible YRV was Renault 5 1989, which I had for about 15 years, doing all repairs and maintenance. Once it died with rust beyond economic repair, I bought the YRV 2000 about 4 years ago, it just goes and goes - so never had to repair it. I like it so much, I bought another one for cheap for my partner, and this is the first time I’ve tinkered with a post 1996 car! The Renault was basically the same as the Morris Minor technology from early 1960s I used to drive, and got my licence on. So, this has been a real learning curve of catching up with what has happened to the automotive technology in the 1990s. Your very precise diagnostic advise above, the mix of old and new, made me think about tinkering with cars in a completely new way. To cut the long story short - I now understand the sensors send vital info and controlled by computers. I found the OBD2 port under the dash etc. I tried the spray technique so as not to waste time refitting the throttle body, and reread your original post carefully, identifying each sensors described, and understanding its function. And I’ve discovered I have not reconnected the pipe to MAP sensor! Doh. So the car now goes as it was - and the idling is more stable at about 600, much better and drivable. The ICV is not as responsive as my other YRV - which precisely raise rpm when the AC kicks in. Also I’ve noticed the ICV sensor secured by the 5 point torx has oblong holes - making position adjustment possible. Is it for raising or lowering the base idle speed? But here is another question - (I don’t know if I should be posting this question in another thread?) When I tried OBD2 scan for the first time - first with bluetooth based unit - it will not connect, after trying out all protocols. I tried it with my other YRV and it is the same. I figured the bluetooth unit is not compatible (although it has all protocols and says compatible with Daihatsu), and borrowed another scanner - this time wired, but connection fails with both my YRV. I am dubious of computers at best of times, but it has infilterated every aspects of my life. . . Do you have any thoughts on scanners not connecting with YRV? One is 2000 export model, new in New Zealand 2000, manual. The new one is an import (Japanese domestic model) 2001 and automatic. I understand ECU may be different with different configurations. All the best and thank you again for your knowledge.

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Excellent work, well done getting it sorted! Daihatsu’s are quite simple cars for a modern, but you wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve forgotten to connect all the cables and pipes up after I’ve been tinkering.

You’re right and the ICV mounting holes are slightly oblong, I fitted mine in as close to the original position as possible and it seems fine - but was idling at 2500rpm when warm prior to my replacement so anything would have been an improvement frankly! It might be worth loosening it and wiggling it about a bit to se what happens? I’d be interested even from a purely ‘scientific’ viewpoint.

With the OBD scanner plugged in, do you have the key in and ignition on, in position 2 (i.e. the position before the starter engages)? This is the most likely issue. I have an OBD scanner which connects fine to my Sirion M101 which will have an identical OBD setup to your YRV, but it will only talk to the car when the ignition is switched on.

Give it a go, and let me know if that works

Would this be a Replacement IAC?

2227097401 Idle Air Control IAC Valve For Suzuki Esteem Toyota Terios 2227011020 - AliExpress 34

Part number matches so you should be OK. Worst case scenario you’ve lost 30AUD?

Visually, that looks identical to what I bought as well so I think you should be OK

I’ve found that this IACV is shared between a few toyota’s aswell as other makes, most commonly found is on camry’s, its easier to grab a new IACV to clean before fitting to your new one. Also the rubber gasket part no is 22215-0D080