Ray from NL

I’ve bought my third Cuore last month and it was supposed to be a daily next to my Audi TT.
But being surrounded by bad influence and said bad influence getting way to excited to me owning a “shitbox” again has yet again led me down this path of modding the poor little “Shitsu”


Dropped on Kalila struts in the front and modified golf Mk4 springs in the back since they are progressive and had approximately the same diameter.
The ride is firm but not harsh. I’m still waiting the shorter shock absorbers from the Hyundai Pony/Excel/Scoupe to come in to keep the shorter springs in place.
I am still on the hunt for a front sway bar setup to improve the handling a little bit more. The front control arms, joints and strut bearings have al been replaced which made a huge difference already.

The plan was to put some deep dish wheels on the car but the set I currently have is a bit to extreme (14x8J et13) and I haven’t found a set of universal overfenders that fit.



I am currently working on the Audio part but putting of work since I can’t feel my hand when working outside due to the cold.
It’s a basic setup with a 4 channel amp with 2 channels for a dual coil sub and a composet for the front. Haven’t decided where to put the tweeters yet.

If all goes well and I actually finish some of my other projects I might get around to slap the cobbled together turbo kit that I ripped of my old L700 Cuore and make choo choo noises again!

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Welkom Ray

That is a nice cuore, the Dutch are all over the place here.
Me to …

Welkom vanuit Naaldwijk, meer Nederlanders…

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Dutchies UNITE! welcome Ray!!!

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Welcome. Glad you joined us. I am going to beg to differ in the notion of it being a “shitsu”. At the risk of offending you some of you mods are going to have it turn out that way.

I realise you don’t know myself or my background. Listen to my advice and discard, consider, talk it through or adapt. If you just want it to “look” a certain way or fit in with trendy car culture appearances go you hardest. Stereo and “choo choo” noises do say more “hipster mobile” than fast, and there is nothing wrong with a hipster mobile if that’s your thing. So let me know and I’ll not reply with another word. (Tonight I am in a hospital bed and have nothing else to do. I don’t normally get so brash with new arrivals)

One suspension mod a at time. If not after “looks”, is a faster street car and or tracks days the aim? You seem to have a good automotive workshop at your disposal. In Australia you can’t get 14" tires unless you import your own. Biggest decent economical tire I’ve run from someone on these is a Nankang NS2R if on ever on the street or a AR1. Motorsport being bigger in Europe you might easily get a 185/60/14. Here I can get 185/55/13s in the NS2r and AS1 (that latter measure close to a 205). Going to a 205 front and 195 rear 45/15 I’ve only done for two race cars and did extensive tubbing of the inner and pumped out and blended guards. Tires are the first thing to address in handling. Settle on what “realistically fits” and what you can afford. if I knew you were going to stretch tires to fit I’d largely leave your thread be as such is static art and nothing to do with tuning suspension.

8" is too big and would take a 225 nicely. If that ET is positive the effect to the scrub radius will be detrimental (steer like a dog) to performance and will need massive body surgery to keep any steeriing radius.

Putting the same spring rate on the front and back, what does this achieve? Did it oversteer? If not it will now spin front tires more and understeer. If you can try the std from rate in the front and compare back to back, the ride will improve as will the braking. Try not to use those specificed new struts to keep the front springs in place or “captive”. It will end up with no travel, sit on bumps stops and be dangerous to drive. The front needs a shorter leg overall.

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Machine the strut bracket off, make some new bits and weld back on extended through a new bottom bracket such that nothing hits the drive shaft. Gives a tad more travel. Then…

Were the springs and all measured at ride height before cutting? Those extra coils close together are a helper section and not really much to do with variable rate. True variable rate have tapered wire. Look at a car with them installed at static road height and you’ll see the close coil section will be compressed. This just keeps them captive. What you’ve done is cut off the…

part that works like the thin coil in the photo. No room for the adjustable collar up high so a helper is used. What you front will do now is ride on the bump stops. This is dangerous as it needs travel and it won’t enough. On a front wheel drive the front needs travel and it needs to be relatively soft. The sort end of the car gets grip, which should be the front. Make the rear still it takes grip away and make for neutral to oversteer.

Note the image of the VW Scirocco with wheel in the air. The inside rear wheel just hoovering off the ground is about right. Weight from that end of the car is transferred forward diagonally to give grip to the front. Front springs are soft and rear and stiff. Best to learn about spring rates.

What gained from a bigger front sway bar? What do you expect it to do? Will it make the car understeer or oversteer?

Find the right size Koni red or yellow, pull the insides out and machine down to fit inside the original, but shortened leg. It is possible to od this and add coil over springs but I was wanting to use absolutely std springs and have no visible mods.

Lots of measuring to figure this set up. Threaded collars for a coil over type spring can be used instead of the orig spring seat (which were lowered) 170lb/in should be a good start for yours (maybe low 200lb if the front sway bar removed which would suit rough back road rally stage type toads) and double that for the rear as a starting place.

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Lots of other easy little stuff to make it drive like a race car. Expensive part is quickening the steering and going to good dampers.

Don’t do mods for the sake of a mod unless you pretest, fit test and compare results.

Mr Gormsby! I hope the recovery is going well. Thank you for taking the time to such an extensive write up.

The little Cuore was supposed to be my winter daily. I did some budget racing back in the day too where I was all about spring and damper rates, weight distribution, alignment specs and tire pressures. Since those adjustments are free once you had the right gear.

This lovely little nugget (as said, its my third already) made a lot of people around me very excited for me to do some mods again. I’ve had a few difficult cars before this one so I too was looking forward to simpler times.
Since I only need it to drive me from and too work on the smooth Dutch roads I’m not to concerned about the handling capabilities at the moment. Going fast is something thats off the table too. :

I do respect the methods you’re describing but realize for someone who just got into this hobby it is kind of daunting. I encourage them to “mess around and find out” within certain limits ofcourse.
Slapping an old 1.9 TDI turbo on a EJ-DE has teach me a lot about fabrication work and how a turbo operates. It also taught me that there is a limit to everything :sweat_smile:

A well know Dutch saying is “There are multiple ways that lead to Rome.” I always preferred that version over the English one since Rome might not be the end destination :smile:

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I still wonder why you think you need a bigger front sway bar. What will it do to the handling? Road car or race car soften the front - you did say a bit stiff or firm - and you shouldn’t drive around with non-captive springs.

All roads lead to Rome is a suggestion that Rome has overtaken the world and despite where you go you end up in Rome. That is the English version. It’s not about how you get there it’s about Rome and conquer of the know world.

I need a swaybar to keep it a bit more stable on the highway without toeing in to much. I currently dont have one :sweat_smile:

I’ve got a new set of wheels! Tried on a few but very happy with the way this set turned out.





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